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Does the walk up matter?

Picture this.....handler gets the dog out of the car, and starts to walk to the track. The dog is running crazy circles around the handler, charging to the end of the leash, pulling like a freight train, and in general being wild and rude. They get to the start flag.....


What is the dog's mental state at this point in time? Is he focused, thinking, engaged? How about the handler--is she calm, focused, relaxed?


The dog bolts away from the flag towards the second flag. Do you go? Do you allow the dog to drag you down the first 30 yards and hope that by the time you pass the second flag he's actually tracking? How's that going to work for you when you try TDX?


But Judi, we WANT our dogs to pull in tracking. Yes, we do. Strongly, and calmly--on the track. I have never suggested that tracking is an excuse for rude behavior....and after listening to Julie Daniels for a weekend, I've come to appreciate that 'rude' behavior is also emotional behavior...and we want thinking dogs, not emotional ones.


Mary Ann and Jack have been working on a clean, quiet walk up for over a year. If you know Jack, you can appreciate what an effort this has been for both of them. MaryAnn doesn't tell Jack what to do--she doesn't try to cue/command the behavior she wants. Rather, she has slowly and painstakingly shaped the walk up as a separate behavior. Recently, she's been going novel places, putting in a short straight track, and working just on the walk up. This will mimic a test, where for many dogs, the novelty of the new location amps them up to a totally emotional state.


Why not just cue/command the behavior? If you are super excited about something, can I order you to stop feeling that way? I can make you act calmer...but what is happening inside? Is the excitement building, and perhaps some frustration as well? When you get to the exciting thing, are you going to be calm, or might you leap up and down with glee? The same concepts apply to your dog: if you squash the craziness, you could either get more of it later, or the dog might start to associate tracking with being squashed by you. Neither are a recipe for success. Training your dog to walk quietly, allowing him to figure out what behaviors get him both reinforcers and access to the track, will allow you to have a quiet, thinking, cooperative partner at the start.


As an aside, as I've watched MaryAnn and Jack over the year, I've watched his starts and turns improve as the walk up improves. His tail is still a blur--he's still having a blast--but he's thinking, working, up to the track, and starting just beautifully.


It's something to think about. How would you start to shape a nicer walk up? I'd suggest food scatters BEHIND YOU, so the dog doesn't get into the head up, chest out, pulling position. You could also just feed (constantly) from your hand, making sure the leash is loose. There is no way to fix this quickly--so please don't tell me you tried it for a month and it's not working. I promise, if you are consistent, and help the dog make good choices every time you walk towards a track, a year from now your dog will walk quietly. And yes, if your dog is a serious puller, it may well take that long......



 
 
 

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valerie pascal
valerie pascal
Oct 31, 2023

Just a question for Mary Ann or Judi.

Is there a reason for dropping treat on ground rather than from your hand? I have been trying the 1-2-3 pattern game from Leslie McDevitt which seemed to work well for us today.

I feared a moving treat may cause more arousal.

Valerie

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judisedwards
judisedwards
Nov 01, 2023
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For me, the only real reason is to avoid the dog getting their head up and chest out in the pulling position. If that’s not a concern (you are a good enough trainer to not let that happen), I don’t think it matters where the treat is delivered, as long as there is no tension on the lead.

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Kara Kolster
Kara Kolster
Oct 23, 2023

Jack looks great!


Thanks for this post Judi. It made me pay attention to how my dogs approached the start flag today, and also watched how they walked back to the car after the track. Got some good information from both.


Please confirm or correct my assumption that it's never too soon to train a good walk up? Thinking of my puppy who is (pardon the simplification) VERY excited to get to the start flag.

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judisedwards
judisedwards
Oct 25, 2023
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Never too early to start. Feel free to use food scatters to get him there on a loose leash. That was an integral part of MaryAnn and Jack's success. No conflict, no cues...just handfuls of food tossed down BEFORE he pulled, which kept him focused on MaryAnn (watching for a toss). Giving him the opportunity to make choices is key to success!

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valerie pascal
valerie pascal
Oct 22, 2023

I am so glad you and Jack are so much improved. Thank you for the video as it is something my little monster should be doing. I love that you also walk back to the car calmly. So important.


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Jack & Mary Ann
Jack & Mary Ann
Oct 20, 2023

Charging at the end of the leash, pulling like a freight train, wild & rude …. Truth!

Emotional behavior … Truth!

Another TRUTH is this wild behavior is NOT ‘drive’ – it is arousal and anxiety. He gets ‘all Jacked up’ anticipating action, offering every behavior he knows, reverting to quartering for MORE movement. Nothing about that says he can successfully complete an 800 yd track @three hours old with cross tracks, changes of cover, obstacles, and indicate four articles. So, under the experienced direction of Judi and Kyla Smay, I have worked hard to shape a calm walk up to the start flag AND a calm walk back to the car. Creating a calm mindset, in both of us…

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22ttmorris
22ttmorris
Oct 23, 2023
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That looks great! What a nice approach...I can definitely see that the work you've been doing is paying dividends :).

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EllenOertel
EllenOertel
Oct 20, 2023

At Scentwork trial start lines I have given slow treats to lower his arousal just a smidge. Saying “Goooooood” as I slowly deliver the treat to his mouth.

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judisedwards
judisedwards
Oct 20, 2023
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If only we could use food in tracking tests! However, that is an excellent idea for training, as long as you are careful to not make it part of the cue picture. It’s entirely reasonable, and behaviorally sound, to pair quiet stroking with food and over time, the CER should transfer to the stroking. I love that you’ve made the connection between SLOW food delivery and calm. While eating is calming, accessing food can be exciting.

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